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18 March 2012 @ 06:02 pm
[Trans] Kame Camera - Vol.14 Manhood  
Highlights:
-What is the difference between manhood and femininity for Kame.
-Kame's sudden transformation into a woman (?)
-Kame's model of manhood (I bet you can guess who's he talking about).
-Kame's type of woman.
-...and more xD


KAME CAMERA
What's the scenery of the bottom of the heart that Kamenashi Kazuya's lens reflects?

Vol.14 男らしさ MANHOOD

「Femininity is expressed by appearance, but manhood can’t be anything but the inside. I think that it’s the sense of responsibility and the combative heart more than muscles.」

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When the drama filming ends too, we can go drinking with calm. Without meaning to, last day just men stayed to drink till such an hour. Moreover we started at 6pm (laughs). Compared to the graceful “steadiness” of women, men are the naughty “movement”.


Just a thing about the time I played the part of a youkai ningen [*] in the drama till last month. Also for the sake of creating the character I decided to make [my] “humanity” thinner, so I carefully used make up or shaved body hair. Then I became something strange, my look was rapidly becoming a feminine look. A feminine outward appearance can’t be born with a mere natural body. Since it is also born from a “creating process”, in a certain meaning it isn’t human, or better, I think it is something that becomes closer to a youkai (laughs). Polishing oneself with beauty and make-up, dressing stuff that you can’t wear without a sense of nervousness like miniskirt or high heels. But that difficulty gives birth to a graceful femininity. Such a femininity is easy to express just with the “look”, on the other side what we call “manhood”, I think that it’s nothing but the “inside”. More than the body sculpture, it’s the strength of the spirit. The combative essence, a courage that carries responsibility, the determination to protect people dear to you… if there aren’t these qualities, it doesn’t matter how much you smooth your appearance over, as a man you’re nothing, right?

Kamenashi Kazuya has the heart of a man, the body is a man’s body too, and also my love direction is the one of a normal man (laughs). But normally I am not conscious of something like “I want to behave manly”, and my antenna promptly reacts to things concerning women interests too. I am often said “during concerts you do feminine dance and movements”, but that’s because normally I admire the beauty of women’s gestures or movements. I absorb them unconsciously and they come out as expressions, I guess. Also the fact that I like typical feminine stuff like cosmetics or aroma, it’s because it looks simply very interesting and it feels good. For this reason I’m interested in what the actresses who work with me carry around, and in the dressing room we usually have girl’s talks (laughs). Probably talking like this there are people thinking “you aren’t manly. Although you’re a man”, but I don’t mind. I simply want to enjoy what I like, both cars and beauty, as I please. I always want to be neutral towards stuff I find wonderful or interesting, without paying attention to how people see me.


People that outside are frank like a man but at home enjoy their femininity are great


In the end, I think that fascinating people have no relation with being a man or a woman, and speaking about people that fascinate me, they have somehow a sort of “neutral/in between” charm. When I’m asked “Who is a man you like?”, it’s always Johnny Depp, without fail. More than a macho body form, a body with a slender muscularity and also with a slight carelessness is better. Both the sensitivity and the gestures possess a somewhat feminine allure. Someone who doesn’t insist on his masculinity on the outside but that you can rely on at the crucial moment; whose work manners follows his principles and who’s a frank man… in my opinion, such a man is a good man. The same goes for women. I like people who have a sort of neutral/in between nature. More that someone that pulls off the woman nature just outside, I like people who make me feel, in a good meaning, their manhood. I am charmed by women that have a serenity that doesn’t mind little things, who have the steadiness of someone who carries a burden or an independence that doesn’t require to be spoilt like a child. Actually, isn’t this kind of people secretly keeping inside themselves a cute woman? They composedly keep an interesting conversation, but actually on the love side they’re pure and naïve (laughs). Even though their fashion is rough, lingerie and negligée are incredibly elaborate. Even though when they go to eat outside they are like “wherever we go is OK!”, at home they’re very skilled cookers and plainly do housework. On the contrary, I wonder if aren’t those who vigorously try to appeal keeping showing a sort of femininity the ones who live in a slipshod way… but this is just my conjecture (laughs).

In short, both men and women, wonderful people are “still waters run deep”. [**] Aren’t exactly those people who enjoy their masculinity or femininity just for themselves and not for someone else’s sake the genuine ones?

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Kame’s fixed point of observation
Exactly as it’s written in the text, Kamenashi-kun is expert about girl’s matters to the point to exchange opinions about beauty with the female staff in charge of the serial corner. Saying “My dressing room is like an actress’ one! (laughs)” in the picture he shows us there are aroma candles, Nano steamer [***], skin care goods with beautiful bottles. “Skin care too, products for women improves your feelings even just looking at them”, his heart is completely a girl one! “Since I’m capricious, things to rise up my mood are essential. Moreover since I am fickle, I always look for fresh new information. Ladies, please take care of me! (laughs)”
By Maquia

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Notes
[*] Youkai ningen = humanoid monster. He's referring to the drama "Youkai Ningen Bem" he's starred in.
[**] This saying literally translates as “intelligent hawk conceals its talon”.
[***] I don’t have idea of how this thing ナノスチーマー is translated in English since I couldn’t find something similar in a language different to Japanese (and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something used just in Japan XDD) but it’s basically this Panasonic stuff, used for skin care (this). It was also in the Panasonic Christmas Campaign last year.

Side note about “neutral/in between” charm". This is a word I'd normally translate as neutral, indeed, but since he's talking about gender, I think the meaning is indeed "a charm that's not masculine nor feminine, or both of them". Just my guess though. :)

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I understand where Kame comes from, but I don’t really like what he said here about "masculine" and "feminine" difference. Anyway... as Johnny Depp huge fan, I'm also happy when Kame talks about him~ xD
PLEASE, don't steal this translation re-posting it without credits, and link to this entry!
Moreover, if you want to retranslate, CREDIT this LJ for the first JP->EN translation please!
 
 
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tim_1201tim_1201 on March 18th, 2012 05:21 pm (UTC)
This made me love love love Kame more!!! Kame has such freedom to do whatever he likes and don't care what others might say.

Thanks for sharing! \ε(♥⌣♥)з/
subete wo tsutsumi kimi wo aisu yo // Lisa Nougatlisanougatcoins on March 18th, 2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
How can I sleep with this waiting for me XD LOVE YOU ISI!
But I shall abstain until I get my exam results tomorrow *hugs*
Shall follow this comment up!
laniechan_desulaniechan_desu on March 18th, 2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
thanks for sharing and for translating it isi-san! :)

UWAAAAAA. I REALLY LIKE THIS VOL14.

KAME IS REALLY A MAN! well, i always think of him as one, though he really has this feminine side in him. i mean, there's always a feminine side in every man, same goes with women, we also have a boyish side in us. :)

i like how KAME see things, in a neutral way. he's very an observant person. thats a good quality. i think he really is exercising empathy. :) like he tries to see or understand the feelings of both sexes. :D
chained_akame: KameMorichained_akame on March 18th, 2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
Another glorious interview of Kame <3 He will never fail to mesmerize me with his way of thinking and his opinions on different things...also,yay for Johnny Depp :)

thank you for sharing this^^
supernaduhsupernaduh on March 18th, 2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
I think I get why you disapproved of Kame's views on masculinity and femininity. As far as this article goes, feminine = externalities/ primping, and masculinity = essence.

Or not, and I'm seriously just lacking sleep. But ngl, that remark of yours jolted me :D
your friendly neighborhood Isi: Ueda doesn't approveiside89 on March 18th, 2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
that remark of yours jolted me :D
Why? xD I wonder why people think Kamefans never disapprove Kame...? I mean, we sometimes do! xD

Pinpon~ Yes, it's more or less what I've felt from this essay's incipit :P He saved his point of view at last saying that he prefers not-shallow girls but women with a "manly" sense of responsibility. I also said that I understand why he says this because I know Japanese men's way of thinking and I've seen Japanese girls, so I get what disappoints Kame. Still, I don't approve the incipit message. xD;;

But funny enough, Volume 15 partly changes what he's said now (comment about inner beauty in women). It's like vol.15 completes vol.14. So... I hereby declare I don't understand this man anymore xD
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scorch66: feelscorch66 on March 18th, 2012 06:38 pm (UTC)
I love this Maquia so much fhdsjkfhdskj It's like everything we know and have talked put in Kame's own words.

feminine outward appearance can’t be born with a mere natural body. Since it is also born from a “creating process”
I like how he says this, how 'femininity' is a construct. It's not the be-all-end-all for women but something society has created and a category anyone can fall into if they try.

Probably talking like this there are people thinking “you aren’t manly. Although you’re a man”, but I don’t mind. I simply want to enjoy what I like, both cars and beauty, as I please. I always want to be neutral towards stuff I find wonderful or interesting, without paying attention to how people see me
YOU GO, BB. so much love and admiration for you ♥♥♥♥

I am charmed by women that have a serenity that doesn’t mind little things, who have the steadiness of someone who carries a burden or an independence that doesn’t require to be spoilt like a child.
Love, love, love.

One of my favourite Maquias so far. Thank you so much for translating this, Isi ♥
your friendly neighborhood Isi: Kame B/W styleiside89 on March 18th, 2012 06:56 pm (UTC)
LOL I wonder why the one that may probably become my least favourite has become the favourite of so many people? XD;;;
I think that "feminine=outward appearance" is limiting female possibility. I consider "real women" those mothers who can skillfully carry on both family and work, who devote themselves to their beloved ones. I was kinda disappointed that he made these values fall under only the "manhood" label. Yes, he sort of changed that point toward the end and I appreciate that he prefers exactly those women I'd call Women (with "W"). Still the first declaration kinda left me a bitter taste... :/ As I said, I know why Kame said this. But it kinda made me sad that he didn't make the following step in his reasoning :( he says he likes that kind of women, but it makes it sound like those women have a "manly" side, while I'd consider it the "real" femininity. Well, can't blame him for his cultural background~
/SO at the end I'm forgiving him as always~ xD/

I'm rambling~ xD Well, this is what I like about Kame camera issues, they make you think about many stuff through Kame's words... in a way or another :)

Edited at 2012-03-18 07:03 pm (UTC)
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La Fee Verteabsinthe1213 on March 18th, 2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
oh kame...
how are you so adorable...

he really loves pulling our tails, so to speak...
Silviaylunio on March 18th, 2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
Ok, questo valume di Maquia suona COSI' Giapponese XD
Soprattutto all'inizio, quando Kame parla dell'importanza dell'apparenza per le donne, e della forza dell'uomo che, invece, risiede al suo interno, nel suo carattere. È un po' deprimente.
Ma che la società giapponese sia fondamentalmente maschilista si sa e fare finta che non sia così è piuttosto ipocrita.
Alla fine quando Kame dice che preferisce persone che siano nella "via di mezzo", in un certo senso, non parla anche di se stesso? Lui si occupa del suo aspetto esteriore come farebbe una donna, ma ha il cuore di un uomo.
E thumbs up per Johnny Depp! <3
bellemelodybellemelody on March 18th, 2012 07:37 pm (UTC)
thank you very much for translation!
saharasnow82saharasnow82 on March 18th, 2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the translation.

I’m kind of torn on this one. I really appreciate Kame for being all about acting in the way that suits him best regardless of the gender labels associated with those actions. But then on the other hand he still seems to place some value in those gender classifications. I guess that something that has been taught to you from an early age is not easily changed or removed. It would make sense considering he is one of four boys, the lessons of the “difference” between boys and girls were probably running around his house since before he was born. Doesn’t make me like it any better but at least I can accept its origins.

Then he kinda makes it okay again by saying that he appreciates a woman that walks on both sides of the gender line by exhibiting “masculine” and “feminine” qualities. I say “kinda” because he is labeling actions into gender roles.

At the end of the day I may not always agree with him but at least he writes what’s on his mind and for that I will support him.

As I wrote this comment I realized that I can turn this whole thing into a gender studies essay. No matter how many years pass since I graduated college the lessons I learned have still remained with me. Money well spent.

Edited at 2012-03-18 07:52 pm (UTC)
your friendly neighborhood Isi: Bemiside89 on March 18th, 2012 08:05 pm (UTC)
Tell me about it, this essay comes exactly in a period I am studying culture and gender stereotypes in Japan. (This also explains why I reacted in such a torn way to this essay too; I can't read it as a normal interview to my favourite idol anymore ^^')

Then he kinda makes it okay again by saying that he appreciates a woman that walks on both sides of the gender line by exhibiting “masculine” and “feminine” qualities. I say “kinda” because he is labeling actions into gender roles.
Oh, thank you for putting into words what I wasn't able to say in my crappy English just 2 comments above~ XD

As a side question, so you've gender studies as background? That is very interesting. And yes, indeed, these are those moments you think "money well spent" :)

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Triskelljtriskell on March 18th, 2012 07:59 pm (UTC)
thank you
Mariablue_eye1 on March 18th, 2012 08:46 pm (UTC)
This time, even though I would love to elaborate more, I will stop myself from making a longer comment. Things I would have to say about Kazuya's view on manhood and femininity wouldn't be liked.

What I like here very much is Johnny Depp ^^ and Kazuya not really carring about what people are talking about him or how they see him. I'm quite strange human being that doesn't fit any standards of this world and I'm very neutral myself. I cared about what people say about me a lot in the past and it was making me miserable but it changed during last few years and I think I have Kazuya to thanks for that.

Thank You very much for the translation ^_^
steph by steph: kame anan2011shiharipanda on March 18th, 2012 08:56 pm (UTC)
woah *__________*
Tho the way he describles himself is really like I thought, I got impressed to his words!!!
Y U ALWAYS KILL ME WITH THOSE PERFECT WORDS, KAME?????? xD

But after reading this, I don't feel feminine neither masculine ;A; I'm behaviorally asexual!!!!!!!!!!!! ;A;~~~~~~ LOL

I thought "Kame's man" would be KimuTaku or Fukuyama >XDDDDDD~~~

In the end, Kame wants a girl like himself '-' ships Kame x Kame

Thank you very much, Isi!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 No whip.. only pure love for you~~~~~~ <3


Nika: kameracanai on March 18th, 2012 09:19 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for translating! I'm glad he thinks that woman can act manly, too, 'cause sometimes I think that me being not girly is a hindrance.
Well, Kame has an interesting way of thinking! ^^
熱いですね: yamapi kissbuzzbird on March 18th, 2012 09:52 pm (UTC)
Thanks for translating <333