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04 May 2013 @ 01:46 pm
[Trans] Kame Camera - Vol.27 Rules  
Highlights:
-Kame's no-rules life xD
-Quoting kabuki's "breaking the rules just after knowing them properly" idea
-Do you think that he would confess to his girlfriend he "cheated" on her or not...?

Thank you scorch66 for the English betaread!

KAME CAMERA

What's the scenery of the bottom of the heart that Kamenashi Kazuya's lens reflects?


Vol. 27 ルール Rules

「A world without rules is boring. I want to daringly break the rules from time to time just after properly knowing them.」

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As expected humans are ruled, or better are controlled by this more than any other rule, I guess. But it’s important. Even now, with the movie promotion and many other various things… the more I get busier, the more I practically feel I am living inside the rule called time.


School rules or workplace rules…. Even if we define “rule” with a single word there are many kinds of rules, and in any case I might be the kind of person that isn’t good at continuing following the so-called rules (laughs). For example, I decide lifestyle rules only during the period of time I am doing a theatrical play. This is because I can prepare body and spirit by settling rules to their details, from what I eat to what kind of music I listen to and the amount of time I sleep, and I also feel I can turn my personal switch on. But my limit is one month. As soon as the play ends I end up going back to a no-rule lifestyle (laughs). Since my usual schedule isn’t regular day-to-day, if I conduct a properly regulated lifestyle, I’m rather unable to adequately correspond [with the requested energy]. I feel that even the blood that flows inside my body is different between the time I am exposed to the eyes of many people like concerts and when I am alone during my private time, so continuing a routine lifestyle is absolutely impossible.

I totally want to learn the “rules” intended as the world and society’s common sense. When I was a teenager I thought that breaking them was cool, but now I think that a stance like Kabuki is the right choice: first there’s the need to know what common sense is and what “normal” is, and upon this follow to perfection what must be followed, and from time to time boldly break it. As a human being I want to be a person with common sense, but in doing this kind of job even being eccentric becomes [part of one’s] energy and charm. I want to keep dear both the perception of “normal” and “not normal” inside of me.

Recently I turned 27 and there’s something that I feel when I meet people of my same age. Which is, maybe there’s no “mean value of 27 years old”. As long as you’re a student, everyone respects school and family rules and has an average way of life, right? Nonetheless, at that time I was already doing a special job so I often couldn’t respect rules and I was standing out both in good and bad meanings. I really hated it though…. But reaching this age, everyone is conducting a life not hitched to rules or common sense, and people who are even more eccentric than me or very intriguing, have increased. They’re living following their heart without being caught by rules, so they have personality and are interesting.


Even if I fall in love with another girl, until the end I won’t tell it to my girlfriend.


It doesn’t mean that I hate rules. On the contrary, a world without rules isn’t fun and I think it isn’t productive. But I think: if you continue breaking all the rules with a rebellious spirit, what will you find after that? For example in my case, I have a rule inside of me of “don’t lie” regarding human relations I create in both private and work time. I always want to be honest with my heart and I don’t want to lie neither with words nor acts. Of course since I am doing this job I mustn’t reveal all of me and anyway there are things I won’t show or say. That’s also another rule. Inside of me not lying and having secrets are on two totally different dimensions. For example, if I went out on a date with another girl despite having a girlfriend, even if I am pressed for an answer by the girlfriend I’ll never ever tell it. Because I think that the only one feeling better after spitting it out would be me. Even if we eventually break up, I won’t say till the end a reason that’s fine with being left unsaid. I think that’s a man’s kindness, and also a love rule. Also the relationship with fans is close to this. I always earnestly consider them important and I come into contact with them speaking my mind, nevertheless, I think it’s different from venting all my private life or my discontent. This is why there are secrets (laughs). But exactly because there are secrets that fantasy grows bigger and love becomes deeper, I guess.



Kame’s fixed point of observation
As it’s written in the text, he talked using an expression that you’d expect from him, “the type of blood flowing inside my body between the time I’m alone and the work time is different”, but what does this mean in detail? “It’s the same of girls producing hormones before a date (laughs). I am the type who is easily influenced by many people and facts, extremely more so than others. It’s the same also for other moments, like when I work with a charming actor I pull off something better than my ability, or when I can become an extreme show-off during lives. Probably it’s thanks to this blood that’s easily influenced (laughs)”.
By Maquia

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Looking forward to reading your comments about his "keeping the secret"~ xD


Small note: Reading the comments, to avoid confusion I think I need to point out that the original sentence about "If I ended up going out with another girl..." is an example-hypotesis ("in the case something like this happens..."), and it also implies that he actually didn't do it on purpose planning to go out with someone else and cheat, but it's something that somewhat happened (for who speaks Japanese, it's a ~しちゃったとして).
 
 
 
Seelenlichtseelenlicht on May 4th, 2013 12:05 pm (UTC)
Hmm, this is interesting. I remember he once was asked whether he ever lied in interviews, and he said that he never did, but simply keeps some things to himself.
This is kinda the same.
And I think there is always the question if 'not saying something' is equal to 'lying'

"even if I am pressed for an answer by the girlfriend I’ll never ever tell it."
But...I wonder what he would do if his girlfriend asked him stuff like 'where was you' or 'what were you doing'
Because in this case the line between lying and not telling the truth is very, very, very narrow. Especially if he would simply try to avoid a clear answer.

"I think that’s a man’s kindness, and also a love rule. " Well as long he really believes in it. And thinks that it's a good thing, because he doesn't want to hurt her...and doesn't do it just because he doesn't want to get into problems, it's okay? I think...

"I always earnestly consider them important and I come into contact with them speaking my mind, nevertheless, I think it’s different from venting all my private life or my discontent. " ♥♥♥ SO DAMN TRUE.

Thank you so much for translating :-))
Seelenlichtseelenlicht on May 4th, 2013 12:08 pm (UTC)
Oh, because I totally overlooked this.
"-Do you think that he would confess to his girlfriend he "cheated" on her or not...?"
Tbh...I think he wouldn't.
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Muffy Paradisemuffy_paradise on May 4th, 2013 12:57 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for translating. Kame's mind is so fascinating, and this topic is such a great example of that, since he seems to make his own rules that correspond to his way of seeing the world, which, as we know, is unique.
moveslikekame: bananashimoveslikekame on May 4th, 2013 01:47 pm (UTC)
Lol Kame. Well I think it's okay though... to not tell. It'd be easier that way I guess. And even if I was the girlfriend I'd totally be okay w/ that rather than knowing that he was with another the whole time and hearing how he's unsatisfied with me. Yappari it'll be better unsaid. XD Lol am I weird? Or maybe because I totally have no experience with relationships that's why XD

"But exactly because there are secrets that fantasy grows bigger and love becomes deeper, I guess." - Oh fantasy. This is probably why I love him the most. Imagination runs wild with him. Discovering him completely would take longer than a lifetime imo XD

"I might be the kind of person that isn’t good at continuing following the so-called rules (laughs)" - Should this explain your totally adorable interaction with fans in Udine then Kame? XD

Thanks for translating Isi ♥
Otsukame ^^
saharasnow82saharasnow82 on May 4th, 2013 10:26 pm (UTC)
I don't think you are weird in this at all. Seriously who wants to feel that they are not good enough. But I think your lack of relationship experience could be coloring your judgement. I think in the relationship situation it is not a matter of "good enough to" but "good for" the other person. It's the fitting together of the different personalities, the likes/dislikes, and the desire to be together and work at the relationship.

Here are a few questions for you to think about in regards to what Kame said.

At the end of the day would you really be happy with someone that doesn't love you enough to not be with anyone else? With someone that really doesn't respect you enough to say the relationship isn't working and instead of trying to fix it or just breaking up he seeks fulfillment else where?
faithiehannahfaithiehannah on May 4th, 2013 03:07 pm (UTC)
hmmmm....dear.

"That’s also another rule. Inside of me not lying and having secrets are on two totally different dimensions. "

My thought is that a lie of omission is just as bad, especially when talking about relationships. He views it as a "man's kindness" to not tell his girlfriend. I understand his point in that it would hurt her more. HOWEVER. I would rather he tell. Even if it's going to hurt, knowing if someone is discontent in a relationship is very important.

And does he mean he will keep a "secret" like this, if he continues to cheat? Because once I can understand...I would have a hard time swallowing more than once.

And seelenlicht made a good point...is he trying to avoid hurt? or is he trying to AVOID a fight? this is an important question. I could personally do without that kind of "man's kindness."

He has talked about cheating before, leaving me to believe he felt like it was unnecessary to tell the girlfriend the truth in most situations. I believe when he was giving advice in his former radio show.

The last thing he said....I HAVE TO COMMENT ON.
"I always earnestly consider them important and I come into contact with them speaking my mind, nevertheless, I think it’s different from venting all my private life or my discontent. "
SO TRUE! He is always omitting personal details, which HONESTLY a fan like me doesn't need to know. Because maybe...it would hurt us. For example, maybe he's not single....but he's going to keep that from fans as long as possible.
Also it's VERY professional to keep personal details and discontent to himself. That's for a friend and as much as I would like to be...I'm not his friend. I just hope he has someone to share with. :(
pinkporcapinkporca on May 4th, 2013 03:16 pm (UTC)
Well said...I do hope he has a true friend to share his personal feelings with and that friend never betrays him.
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pinkporcapinkporca on May 4th, 2013 03:15 pm (UTC)
Thank you for your efforts in translating this and sharing it. Really appreciated. I can not really put into words my thoughts on his keeping secrets, but do understand him completly. As humans we all keep secrets..It is a matter of what do we want to share. Do we share because we want to hurt someone or not hurt someone? Do we share because we want glory (in some circumstances). It doesn't matter as long as in the end you are true to yourself.
faithiehannahfaithiehannah on May 5th, 2013 03:28 am (UTC)
hmmm....relationships crumble when lies are involved. It's hard to come back from it.

"being true to yourself." I'm not sure what I think of that. kinda sounds like subjective morality? aka no right and wrong, only choice. To which I strongly object. I understand opinions differ but in a relationship there has to be some kind of compass of what is acceptable (RIGHT) and what is unacceptable (WRONG). If the girl is okay with his omissions, I guess that's up to her, but I'm pretty sure most women are against this idea in general. and I'm one of them! :)


Edited at 2013-05-05 08:16 pm (UTC)
abyssinian13abyssinian13 on May 4th, 2013 03:36 pm (UTC)
this also reminded me of that interview about not lying when asked but also not revealing everything and that article about why he doesn't use social media..he's really consistent when it comes to this topic..

keeping secrets is fine, i guess..everyone is entitled to secrets, especially in the type of world he moves in..it really depends on the situation..but to his given example, wouldn't it be better to know straight from him than from someone else?i mean, not telling her if she ask will probably breed doubt in her mind, and so on and so forth..

i do admire him when it comes to separating his private life from his work..i like it that he's one of those artists who doesn't reveal everything about themselves..

his views on rules, especially that lifestyle rule he has for dream boys, i really admire..i wish i could apply that to myself, but on a longer span of time..

-the more I get busier, the more I practically feel I am living inside the rule called time.- this, i really like..

thanks for sharing!!!



eitu_chaneitu_chan on May 4th, 2013 03:51 pm (UTC)
Kame's way of thinking is really unique! The things he said actually makes sense... But wouldn't it hurt a girl more if he hides it? Well, either way it is going to hurt.
Kame is so interesting, his point of view on things are very special. His view om things usually surprise me, his way of thinking is not like anyone else's!


Thank you for sharing ♥
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on May 4th, 2013 04:12 pm (UTC)
Vol. 27 ルール Rules
I hope if and when his girlfriend keeps secrets from him too, that he'll also consider it it, 'a woman's kindness'.
and I love how his 'special' blood allows him to outdo himself XD

Many Thanks for sharing :-)
faithiehannahfaithiehannah on May 4th, 2013 07:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Vol. 27 ルール Rules
BAHAHHHAHAHAHA. LOL at "a woman's kindness." props Kissmegreen. well said.
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saharasnow82saharasnow82 on May 4th, 2013 07:41 pm (UTC)
Firstly thank you for your wonderful work in translating Kame’s entries.

WARNING: You are now entering into my ranting!

This is the first time that I have really wanted to smack Kame. The keeping secrets thing has a time and a place and keeping your infidelity from your significant other is neither the time nor the place. Maybe you (Kame) should put that “man’s kindness” into action before you get into this kind of predicament. If you are in a relationship you should not be going out on “dates” with other people. The only dates you should be going out on when you are in a committed relationship should be with your girlfriend. “Hanging out” with friends of the opposite sex is understandable, at least in my eyes, and would be something that you would most likely be open with your girlfriend about anyway so that shouldn’t be as big a problem. I say “as big a problem” because people generally cannot see men and women being friends without the sexual element so she may get suspicious or jealous at some point.

Getting back on topic. Hey Kame, don’t be a dick and keep your first girl around just in case this new girl doesn’t work out. If you aren’t in love with her enough to try to work out whatever is lacking and then decided to fill the space with another girl or if you are just not ready to be in a committed relationship then break up. It will be better for both of you. You won’t have to run around in secret and try to keep your story straight so she won’t find out. She will then have the opportunity to find someone who will actually loves her and who she can love. And you can be free to do whatever the hell you want with whomever you want.

He says he doesn’t want to hurt her but what happens if she finds out from someone else? Isn’t it going to hurt her more that some other person had to tell her the truth about the relationship? His motives seem more selfish than altruistic.

Okay rant over.

I’m looking forward to the next volume.
faithiehannahfaithiehannah on May 4th, 2013 07:49 pm (UTC)
OMG....ahahhahaahhaha. lol. Thank you. Something I said internally. lol

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xnymxxnymx on May 4th, 2013 08:59 pm (UTC)
I'm a bit :/ at Kame's thoughts about not telling his gf he cheated. He doesn't wanna hurt her but if she discovers on her own, it gonna hurt more. And the pressure of keeping it a secret from her, how can he handle it? I think that if he loves her, he shouldn't be able to keep it a secret w/o hurting himself. Unless he's okay to 'love' and cheat at the same time. But imo, cheating means that u're falling out of love of ur lover. So it marks the beginning of the end of the relationship. But then... What does he mean by 'cheating' ? If cheating doesn't involve 'love' (bc he said in an interview that even if he's in a relationship, once he loves someone else, it's over). Then again, I can understand his point of not wanting to hurt the other one but isn't he trying to avoid hurting himself and/or facing his lover ? Maa— as long as he knows what is right and what is not (from his pov), I guess it's ok.
your friendly neighborhood Isi: Kame bang!iside89 on May 4th, 2013 09:24 pm (UTC)
And the pressure of keeping it a secret from her, how can he handle it? I think that if he loves her, he shouldn't be able to keep it a secret w/o hurting himself. Unless he's okay to 'love' and cheat at the same time.
Or unless it's his way of "punishing" himself, because if he loves her he'd hurt himself in keeping it as secret, as you said, and this pain might be his punishment. Who knows xD

Indeed, he doesn't say what he means with "going out for a date", if it's already cheating or just eating a meal out with another woman. We'll wait for the moment he'll develop this concept again :)
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steph by steph: Kame  ( :(shiharipanda on May 4th, 2013 09:22 pm (UTC)
Totally agree that it's good to break the rules sometimes, after knowing them. This consciousness is interesting because you need to know what exactly you're doing too... breaking the rules, but in a responsible way: what are you breaking? what are you doing? what are the consequences?
It's ignorance/stupidity transgress without taking responsibility.


"Looking forward to reading your comments about his "keeping the secret"~ xD"
You know most of us would not agree, right? ahuhauhauhauhaa

This reminds me something he said years ago (in Maquia too?) about not telling everything he feels. Sometimes "spliting" our problems on a friend might not resolve the problems and will only overload this person. So at times it's better to keep some feelings to ourselves. I kinda agree with this.
By the way if there is something I learned with my friends' numerous relationships (as I don't know why I always become the advisor O_o), keeping secrets never is good :/ For the betrayer and betrayed. Kame can call it kindness, but for woman's pov, it's jerkness XDDD (does this work exist? I just invented). It'll also corrode himself every time he's with his lover (only if he really doesn't care about what he did... KAME I HOPE YOU ARE NOT THIS KIND OF PERSON XDDDDDDD).

All the mixed feelings on this holy moment!haiuhaihiahiahiahua (it stills holy anyway ❤)
Thank you very much, Isicchi (that I hope you never will be in this situation xD) ❤
your friendly neighborhood Isi: Kame B/W styleiside89 on May 4th, 2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
You know most of us would not agree, right? ahuhauhauhauhaa
LOL not really xD I am genuinely curious because when I chat with Scorch66 about Maquia, we often disagree on how we read his words xD Especially the last... 3-4 volumes? XD So I am really curious to see what other people think xD

as I don't know why I always become the advisor O_o
LOL hi5-ing there XD;; and it's terrible when you're in the middle position you know everything, right? T_T

KAME I HOPE YOU ARE NOT THIS KIND OF PERSON XDDDDDD
I guess everyone agrees on this xDD
I hope I'll never be in such a situation either O_O And actually, I am really hoping he's never really done it before and he was really just making an hypotesis "what if..." T_T
抱いて~♥nofsummer on May 5th, 2013 01:40 am (UTC)
really like his pov on telling lies versus having a secret, as well as his opinion on rules in life, and how having them as foundation first is necessary.
I guess each one of us experiences different things that eventually shape our mindset, things like love for example is personal, even a boy views on love n relationship differs from a girl. We could disagree but it doesn't make us right or other's wrong either, imo. Anyway, thank you isi.
queen_maharaniqueen_maharani on May 5th, 2013 10:09 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for the translation ^^
username_979 on May 5th, 2013 11:44 am (UTC)
Thank you very much for sharing this translation :)
knottykame_kuchizuke1 on May 5th, 2013 02:12 pm (UTC)
He said he dislikes betrayal and lies.

Makes sense now. It's his life, he can do anything he wants.

Thank you for sharing.

Edited at 2013-05-05 02:13 pm (UTC)